“There was at the time of the attacks, reports of a “5th bomber”. It was thought, because of witness statements and CCTV, that there was a “5th man” with the group travelling down from Luton. Inquiries showed the individual was a regular commuter and he was eliminated from the inquiry. Also in the period immediately following the attacks, one man was arrested in connection with the investigation but he was released without charge. In subsequent weeks, a further man who had claimed to be the “5th bomber” was also arrested and later charged with wasting police time. There is no intelligence to indicate that there was a fifth or further bombers.”
Q. You remember a white car. Might that have been car B that you put on the map for the police?A. It could have been.Q. What about the other car, what colour was the other car?A. Like a bluey colour.Q. There were a group of men. Can you help us as to howmany you think you saw?A. At least six.
Q. [Mr Patterson] "One car had one or two males in it. The other, a lilac-coloured Nissan, had four males leaving it, all carrying rucksacks. When asked, she described all the males as not white."A. [Susan Clarke] He then goes on to say that you handed him the piece of paper that you've told us about.Q. So pausing there, is that an accurate note of what you told the officer on that Tuesday?A. As far as I remember, yes.Q. So although today you've told us that you thought that it was four, possibly five, men associated with those two cars, within days of the incident, the very first time you spoke to the police you were saying that it was two men from one of the cars, four men from the other car, all carrying rucksacks?A. Yes.
Q. Have you marked X as the spot where you came across a group of men?A. Correct.Q. Do you recall how many there were?A. Yes. At the time, I said between four and six.I wasn't entirely certain of the number.
Q. You're probably aware, Inspector, of why I'm asking you these questions. Presumably you were told that there's a witness, Susan Clarke, who told the police quite early on that there may have been more than four people in and around those two cars. Were you aware of that? Did you look for the number of people around those cars?A. Yes, at the time, when we were viewing the CCTV, we were comfortable with the amount of people that were there and that we'd managed to track them to the position where we got decent CCTV images that we could say, yes, there are that number of people.
MR PATTERSON: If we pause it now, perhaps. Can we see four figures walking off, Inspector?A. Yes, we can, yes.Q. Is there a figure who hovers and lingers between the two cars for a period of time?A. Yes, there is a person there, yes. I think that's the person that exited that vehicle that just arrived.Q. Was that something that was investigated and looked into to see where that additional fifth person --A. The individuals around the car were -- their movements were assessed, yes.Q. Is that something that you dealt with or that somebody else dealt with?A. I didn't personally follow this individual away, no.
Q. You said in your evidence earlier: "At the time of viewing the CCTV, we were comfortable with the amount of people that were there." That's for your reference, my Lady, page 180 of thetranscript today, lines 10 to 14. That was referring to that footage of Luton rail station that we've referred to earlier. Can you just go to page 2 of this document, Inspector?A. Yes.Q. Can you see the entry at 7.19 about halfway down the page? This is an entry by DC Stephen Bain who was viewing it on 10 or 11 July. Can you see at the end of that entry at 7.19, after he describes four persons at the rear of the vehicle, he says: "Fifth person remains at vehicle, movement between both, fifth person towards Luton station, distant view." Then a little further down the page, 7.23: "Fifth male through ground level barriers from car park", and there's continued references to the fifth male there, so two more entries at 7.23. So did you discuss with DC Stephen Bain the fact that, on viewing the footage, he had originally thought there were five males at the car?A. I think the footage that you are referring to is what we have just played on the screen. What he has sighted is the fifth man and what he has done, quite rightly, ishe's tracked the movements from small image to Luton where you can get the big image and you can identify the person and the relationship with the other four. So for me, yes, we did discuss it at the time, definitely, because we needed to identify -- when I say that we were happy with four, by the time they got to the station, there was a group of four that we felt were -- we were comfortable that those were the four that were going to be engaged -- that were engaged in the activity. So it's right that he's identified it, because we'veseen when we've viewed it that there is a fifth person that arrives. The officer has noted it in his log and he's tracked him to the station.Q. But you were satisfied at that time, and you discussed with DC Stephen Bain that, in fact, the fifth person was unconnected to those four males, or is that a viewyou've come to subsequently?A.I can't recall if we discussed it in those terms, but we were certainly looking at the movements around the vehicle and identifying fully how many people of relevance to us were there and, certainly, others who were sighted we were looking to eliminate in terms of movements with the four bombers.
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