tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post4275192919820413328..comments2023-04-27T13:08:14.726+00:00Comments on J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign Blog: Home Office 'corrections' to the July 7th Official ReportBridgethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-17881915603099277692007-12-27T15:59:00.000+00:002007-12-27T15:59:00.000+00:00Sorry you got my ast post twice.I was watching aga...Sorry you got my ast post twice.<BR/>I was watching again some of the youtube posts on 7/7,<BR/>The SKY helicopter at 10am where they are still talking about power surges over one hour after the first explosion and of more than 4 explosions. Then thinking why more has not been made of this. It is hard to judge what should be highlighted over some over fact. I read with intrest the police media communications that 7/7 truth have had rellease under FOA (well done) What is the official reason for evacuating canary wharf (hoax?). The Kings cross CCTV paid such an important part in the early identification ? why add this to the storyine if it could not be produced. Maybe on review there was something wrong with it. Although what that could not be fixed.<BR/>The number arrested and later released is also highlighted. Some charged for Hoax or having terrorist material(yuk) but not directly linked to 7/7. Let us hope this year will bring more progress.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02818351651433475998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-67625462885428538972007-12-27T15:23:00.000+00:002007-12-27T15:23:00.000+00:00Hello, I thought you were a bit hard in your comme...Hello, I thought you were a bit hard in your comments about the Ripple Effect. I think it would have been better if they had prefaced it, with (As a result of the refusal of the governent to release the information they had promised to release notably cctv images they claim they have we have doubts about ht egoverment story. we present here another possible story)<BR/>This film what ever its faults helps to keep the story alive and inform more people who may migrate to the 7/7 truth site for more information.<BR/>The story they put together was quite good. The Idea that a plan to have 3 tube bombs and one truck bomb had been formulated as shown in the film and then put into action.<BR/>One wonders why the media have not highlighted the possibility of the bombers copying to plan and some how gaining knowledge of the planed operation for the day and using it as cover.<BR/>But then again thet do not seem to want to talk about the planned and pre-planned operation.<BR/>As with any story the film is not without its faults.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02818351651433475998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-66837576703250403862007-12-27T15:13:00.000+00:002007-12-27T15:13:00.000+00:00Hello, I thought you were a bit hard in your comme...Hello, I thought you were a bit hard in your comments about the Ripple Effect. I think it would have been better if they had prefaced it, with (As a result of the refusal of the governent to release the information they had promised to release notably cctv images they claim they have we have doubts about ht egoverment story. we present here another possible story)<BR/>This film what ever its faults helps to keep the story alive and inform more people who may migrate to the 7/7 truth site for more information.<BR/>The story they put together was quite good. The Idea that a plan to have 3 tube bombs and one truck bomb had been formulated as shown in the film and then put into action.<BR/>One wonders why the media have not highlighted the possibility of the bombers copying to plan and some how gaining knowledge of the planed operation for the day and using it as cover.<BR/>But then again thet do not seem to want to talk about the planned and pre-planned operation.<BR/>As with any story the film is not without its faults.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02818351651433475998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-56752298459252913302007-12-08T05:01:00.000+00:002007-12-08T05:01:00.000+00:00Hi Anonymous, As far as I'm aware, the original 'n...Hi Anonymous, <BR/><BR/>As far as I'm aware, the original 'narrative' has not been amended and is still published featuring the erroneous train time. <BR/><BR/>The amendment was <A HREF="http://security.homeoffice.gov.uk/news-publications/publication-search/general/AmendmenttoOfficialAccount?version=1" REL="nofollow">issued as a separate document by the Home Office</A> on Friday 10th August 2007, along with an introduction stating, "<I>This document updates the Official Account of the 7 July London Bombings</I>".<BR/><BR/>A copy of the Home Office amendment can be downloaded as a <A HREF="http://security.homeoffice.gov.uk/news-publications/publication-search/general/AmendmenttoOfficialAccount?view=Binary<br/>" REL="nofollow">PDF here</A>.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-72083078410337655052007-12-07T14:54:00.000+00:002007-12-07T14:54:00.000+00:00does the online narrative (pdf) as linked to by th...does the online narrative (pdf) as linked to by the bbc,etc. contain the corrections?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-49654066408331285452007-08-30T00:29:00.000+00:002007-08-30T00:29:00.000+00:00PS: Have you read Gianfranco Sanguinetti's On Terr...PS: Have you read <A HREF="http://antagonise.blogspot.com/2007/06/on-terrorism-and-state-by-gianfranco.html" REL="nofollow">Gianfranco Sanguinetti's On Terrorism and the State</A>? There's precious little that's not covered in his insightful treatise. <BR/><BR/>There was also an interesting follow up to Sanguinetti's article <A HREF="http://athenaeum.wordpress.com/2007/07/09/for-ant/" REL="nofollow">here</A>.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-59977028231586580552007-08-29T17:20:00.000+00:002007-08-29T17:20:00.000+00:00Hi John Doe II,I believe your analysis of Gladio b...Hi John Doe II,<BR/><BR/>I believe your analysis of Gladio being a large part of the key is correct. <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://context.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2005/02/18/120.html" REL="nofollow">Vincenzo Vinciguerra gave a lot of it away</A> when he said of the strategy that underpins NATO's far-right, stay-behind networks:<BR/><BR/><I><B>"You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security."</B></I><BR/><BR/>This differs little from what happened on 11/9, 11/3, 7/7, in Bali, the Samarra Mosque, and rather too many others to mention.<BR/><BR/>The repeated absence of public scrutiny of such events and issues by those tasked with the job of serving the general public in the UK gives still more cause for concern. <BR/><BR/>This is further compounded by the interesting characters that appear immediately one starts researching the 7/7 accused. For example, within minutes of commencing research one stumbles upon <A HREF="http://antagonise.blogspot.com/2006/02/islam-intelligence-and-infiltration.html" REL="nofollow">Martin 'Abdullah' McDaid, ex-Special Boat Services</A> (<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Boat_Service" REL="nofollow">elite squadron of operatives</A>) and <A HREF="http://antagonise.blogspot.com/2006/09/if-links-back-to-uk-or-us-sources-are.html" REL="nofollow">James 'Mohammed Yacoub' McClintock, an ex-Mujahideen fighter dubbed 'The Tartan Taliban'</A>, both of whom have, to all intents and purposes, disappeared off the radar.<BR/><BR/>Be sure to let know when your article is published, I very much look forward to reading it.<BR/><BR/>In solidarity, for truth and justice,<BR/>Ant.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-41807869962921461712007-08-28T13:25:00.000+00:002007-08-28T13:25:00.000+00:00Hi Antagonist,I agree on all points. And the more ...Hi Antagonist,<BR/><BR/>I agree on all points. And the more I look the more Gladio is the clue (did you watch "Timewatch" on google. An award winning three-parter by BBC on Gladio). The European Parliament did issue a resolution on Gladio demanding its members to do investigations. Only Italy and Beligum did (and Suisse).<BR/>I did work quite a lot on this and other officially ackonwledged false flag and covert operations. Hope to publish an article on the net soon.<BR/>Best regards and keep up the great work,<BR/>John Doe IIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-11200023490207292882007-08-27T17:44:00.000+00:002007-08-27T17:44:00.000+00:00Hi John Doe II, It's entirely crazy that the offi...Hi John Doe II,<BR/> <BR/>It's entirely crazy that the official government report about the events of 7th July 2005 is reliant on "conflicting witness statements" and not cold, hard, tangible facts. If they can't get such basic and easy to verify facts like train times right, what hope is there that the remainder of the story bears any resemblance to the truth?<BR/> <BR/><A HREF="http://julyseventh.co.uk/july-7-luton-kings-cross-train-times.html" REL="nofollow">J7 did indeed obtain the actual Luton - King's Cross Thameslink timetable for the day</A> and it beggars belief that the government don't appear to have bothered to have done the same. What's more, when John Reid acknowledged the accused weren't on the 7.40, worse still, it transpired that <A HREF="http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1911632.html?menu=news.story" REL="nofollow">the government's version of events wasn't obtained from the police either</A>.<BR/> <BR/>If you also factor in that, in any criminal inquiry in which there exists real evidence to corroborate a hypothesis, eye witness accounts are generally discounted and ignored because of many well-documented, weaknesses in such accounts, particularly in instances of heightened trauma, such as the events of 7/7, then the Home Office report becomes an even greater insult to the intelligence of everyone and further proof, as if it were needed, of the contempt the hereditary ruling classes have for everyone that is 'other'.<BR/><BR/>The <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladio" REL="nofollow">far-right, NATO, Gladio terrorists massacred</A> 38 people in Turkey in 1977, 491 people in Italy between 1969 and 1980, and 28 people in Belgium in 1983-85. They assisted coups in France in 1958 and 1961, in Greece in 1967 and in Turkey in 1960, 1971 and 1980. They carried out the assassinations of Eduardo Mondlane, the leader of Mozambique's national liberation movement, in 1969, and of Aldo Moro, who had been Prime Minister of Italy, in 1978.<BR/><BR/>Despite all this, <A HREF="http://www.theyworkforyou.com/search/?s=gladio" REL="nofollow">Gladio has never been mentioned in the British parliament</A> yet, notably, several European countries have held full parliamentary inquiries into such issues.<BR/> <BR/>When <A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/history/c-d/cross.html" REL="nofollow">Churchill established the Special Operations Executive with the intention of "setting Europe ablaze"</A>, I have a sneaking suspicion he was aware that the continent of Europe includes the British Isles.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-19082575268453878492007-08-27T13:11:00.000+00:002007-08-27T13:11:00.000+00:00“It has now become clear that the exact timing of ...“It has now become clear that the exact timing of the train’s departure, given as 0740, was based on what were later found to be conflicting witness statements.”<BR/><BR/><BR/>With all respect:<BR/>Since when are train departure times based on witnesses? Didn't you guys obtain the real departure time table from Luton? Shouldn't have been too difficult for the Mets to ask it, too...<BR/><BR/>John Doe IIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-2723059865592060472007-08-27T11:18:00.000+00:002007-08-27T11:18:00.000+00:00Rowan, good question!Unfortunately, over two year...Rowan, good question!<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, over two years on, the most basic of facts are nigh-on impossible to establish so I think there's a bit of time required before anyone figures out what the stylistic flourishes such as the 9mm handgun and the "explosive devices of a different and smaller kind from those in the rucksacks" are all about.<BR/><BR/>In fact, one of the better synopses of this dire situtation was written as follows:<BR/><BR/><I><B>"....but it is only those who know little about the humble awkward facts in this case who can be confident about what happened, while those like my investigator friends who now run Julyseventh.co.uk, who know most about what happened, are the ones who are least sure of what happened!"</B></I><BR/><BR/>In other words, everyone knows what happened on 7/7, except those have bothered to do some research and find that the basic 'facts' established by the official story simply don't stack up.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, it was widely reported that the alleged perpetrators planned to create a "<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_burning" REL="nofollow">burning cross</A>" in London, yet the notion of a "<A HREF="http://my.telegraph.co.uk/cmain/may_2007/the_mystery_of_the_burning_cross.htm" REL="nofollow">burning cross</A>" has a very definite association, albeit one not usually linked to the Muslim community.<BR/><BR/>And the last series of bombs to hit London, prior to 7/7, with which there may be political "burning cross" parallels, were <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland" REL="nofollow">attributed to whom</A>?The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-84356786734139118062007-08-27T11:08:00.000+00:002007-08-27T11:08:00.000+00:00Hi RowanThere is also mention of a handgun on p24 ...Hi Rowan<BR/><BR/>There is also mention of a handgun on p24 of the Official Report in relation to Lindsay and the Fiat Brava:<BR/><BR/><I>He began associating with petty criminals.<BR/>Police investigated a report of an aggravated burglary on 27 May involving Lindsay’s Fiat Brava at which one of the group was alleged to have been carrying a handgun. Police inquiries at the time failed to track the vehicle or the occupants. Indeed the injured party at the scene of the aggravated burglary made off and has never been identified. So the motivation of the attack remains unknown.</I><BR/><BR/>Which is odd given that the car was registered to Lindsay and presumably traceable.<BR/><BR/>p10 :<BR/><BR/><I>There had been a report on the Police National Computer that the Brava may have been used in an aggravated burglary (see paragraph 69) and Lindsay was named as the registered keeper for the car.</I>Bridgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-91725002489188532642007-08-27T10:07:00.000+00:002007-08-27T10:07:00.000+00:00The 9mm. handgun is a nice touch, but it seems a l...The 9mm. handgun is a nice touch, but it seems a little outré to me. Why is it supposed to have been there?Rowan Berkeleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13540834498433356440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-2582561594181700832007-08-27T00:19:00.000+00:002007-08-27T00:19:00.000+00:00Bridget has more on how the story unfolded, and th...Bridget has more on how the story unfolded, and <A HREF="http://bridgetdunnes.blogspot.com/2007/08/home-office-corrections-to-july-7th.html" REL="nofollow">the absurdity of the amendment that has been made to the narrative</A>.The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-67338906835309361612007-08-26T16:26:00.000+00:002007-08-26T16:26:00.000+00:00There's more about this on cmain's blog here. He ...There's more about this on <A HREF="http://my.telegraph.co.uk/cmain" REL="nofollow">cmain's blog here</A>. He makes the very valid point:<BR/><BR/><I><B>"For ordinary members of the public "You do not have to say anything. But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in Court". If we apply the same standard to the Home Office ..."</B></I>The Antagonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01459201402366077472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27653305.post-31828286914614351202007-08-25T12:01:00.000+00:002007-08-25T12:01:00.000+00:00Well done and thanks Bridget, for putting together...Well done and thanks Bridget, for putting together all those requests, responses and complaints !Kierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12236507389155398693noreply@blogger.com